Tuesday Discussion : Seasonable Temps and Sun

Seasonably comfortable summer heat for the statistically hottest time of the year. A northwest wind will keep humidity in check, and keep temperatures from spiking much above the low 80s. A fine summer day for any activities you might have planned.
As we look to the remainder of the week, the wind shifts to the east and southeast, and that will allow more clouds and humidity into the picture for the 2nd half of the week. So while we don’t anticipate widespread rainfall… the chances for clouds and spotty rain showers. Scattered showers and thunderstorms are possible on Friday, in advance of what could be a pretty notable heat wave from Saturday through at least Monday of next week. A big ridge of high pressure will set up over the eastern US, and could allow for high heat and humidity, with temps in the mid 90s, and real feel temps near 100°. Something we’ll have to watch as we get closer for better details… but a hot weekend appears likely for the northeast and Hudson Valley.
Have a great Tuesday

November 4, 2019 : Long Range Outlook

The month of October split the country in half in terms of weather.  The northeast US was pretty close to historical averages, with a warm last week likely pushing temps just a bit above average.  While the western US was well below average, due to a persistent dip in the jet stream over the western US.

If you’ll recall during the month of October, there were record breaking snows in Montana and Idaho and the Dakotas, which makes these frigid temperatures much less surprising.  While here in the Hudson Valley, temperatures were pretty close to average.  We had some chilly starts, but our October was right about what we would expect.  The exception being the final days of October, and especially Halloween… where highs were in the low 70s (roughly 15 degrees above average).

So as we move into November, we’ve seen a drastic and sharp change to our weather pattern.  The 2 coldest mornings of the season so far occurred Friday and Saturday nights… sending temps near or below freezing across the entire region.  So with colder air injected into the valley… we decided to take a look at the upcoming pattern over the first half of November.

This is the current jet stream pattern over North America.  This type of jet stream in the middle of winter would be the harbinger of frigid temperatures… likely temperatures below zero.  This time of year, make no mistake, it’s got some cold air… plenty cold enough to support snow.  Locations centered under the deep blue and purple bulls eye, will be where the coldest air is located.  We’ve placed a purple and black star over the Hudson Valley for point of reference on this map.  As we start November, we’re seeing the cold air surge southward, from northern Canada, and it’s pushing into the northern half of the US.  Based on this trending push… here are the projected temperatures for the first week of November…

You can see we expect chilly conditions in the northeast and Hudson Valley… but nothing “brutally” cold.  Temperatures a couple degrees below average are expected through the first week.  With average high temperatures this time of year in the mid 50s… that means afternoon temps will struggle to climb out of the 40s in the afternoon.

But the truly cold air is building in Canada, and is poised to take aim on us.  Here is the projected jet stream as of Thursday…

An area of DEEP cold air is building in Canada, and pushing SE.  The huge ridge out west will allow for the Canadian cold to bowling ball its way into the eastern US.  At this same time, the SE ridge will be giving way to the bitter cold air.  A storm system is projected to form in the Midwest, and move eastward mid to late week.  Just how fast this cold air pushes south… will determine if the storm can make its way far enough north… to spread snow into the Northeast and Hudson Valley for Thursday or Friday.  We’ll talk more about that in a bit.

But in terms of temperatures… as this arctic air surges south… here are the projected temperatures for the 2nd week of November:

This is the 5 day period from Friday through Tuesday.  The average temperatures over that time… are projected to be 10° to 15° BELOW average!  That’s some wintry stuff.  Doing the math… those are afternoon high temperatures that do not get out of the 30s!  And overnight lows that could dip into the 10s and low 20s!  These conditions would be more typical of late December or early January!   So chop your firewood now…

As we reach mid November, you’ll notice that we don’t anticipate any major warm up coming our way… at least not based on the projected Jet Stream Pattern for mid month…

While the western ridge splits a bit, there is still tremendous blocking expected over Alaska.  That should continue to allow the cold air to push SE from northern Canada, and into the eastern US.  This type of pattern would continue to produce below average temperatures, and even potentials for winter storms to develop.  With regard to chances for snow… it’s certainly possible.  Timing is the key this time of year, and we need a storm to ride along the jet stream at just the right time, to combine with enough cold air.  The models have definitely shown that potential in the past few days…

European Model from Saturday Morning: Thursday Night – Friday

This setup appeared Saturday morning on the European model.  The cold arrives at just the right time, to allow the storm system to move into the Mid Atlantic and spread moisture into the cold air.  If this scenario were to unfold… 6 to 12 inches of snow could be the result in the Hudson Valley.  The timing looked to be Thursday afternoon into Friday morning.

However… like we mentioned, TIMING is the key.  Since that run of the computer model… data suggests the cold air will be more aggressive, and faster.  The end result is this…

European Model from Saturday Night: Thursday Night – Friday

The cold pushes south faster, and prevents the storm from moving as far north as the previous guidance suggested.  This would limit any major storm from developing, due to a flatter wave at the upper levels.  Light snow would be possible on the northern edge, but accumulations under 1 inch would be expected.  This scenario is a non-event for the Hudson Valley.  So in 1 run of the European model… we go from major winter storm, to non event.  Welcome to weather forecasting in the winter.

Beyond this Thursday night / Friday event… there will be more chances for snow.  The pattern just favors the potential to a large extent.  This pattern should hold with us for at least the first half of November… before things may begin to moderate.  But we’re going to kick this winter off early… whether it’s just cold temperatures… or if it includes snow.  We’ll have to wait and see.  One thing’s for sure… business is about to pick up at HVW.  We’ll be here to help guide you through all the twists and turns.  We appreciate your continued support, and can’t thank you enough!

HVW Preliminary Winter Outlook 2019-2020

Another summer is behind us, and the transition into autumn is upon us.  As the leaves begin to turn, many minds also begin to turn… to thoughts about what the coming winter season may hold.  Snow lovers begin to get excited, and winter haters begin to dread what lies ahead.  So as speculation begins to increase on the coming winter… that means it must be time for the 2019-2020 HVW Winter Outlook.  This year, we’re going to take a Preliminary look now, and follow up with a final update in late November.  This way we can discuss our ideas, and then update everyone on the trends, and if we need to make any changes to our preliminary ideas.  Will the coming winter be warm?… or bitter cold?  Will we see mountains of snow?… or will the winter be more wet than white?  These are some of the questions we’ll attempt to answer.  So enough small talk… let’s see what the coming winter might hold.

Winter Temperatures : Near Average to Slightly Below Average (-1.5° to +0.5°)

Temperatures this winter are likely to be near normal, to slightly below normal.  The range of -1.5° to +0.5° is due to the fact that we see some signals that could result in this winter being a chilly one.  The conditions heading into this winter are similar to the recent winters of 2014-2015, and last year 2018-2019.  Last winter was about 1.5° to 2.0° above average, while the 2014-2015 winter was about 3.5° below average.  So with both winters showing similarity to this coming winter, the tiny details will determine which previous winter our coming winter will look like.  The front half of the winter looks milder, with the back half of the winter looking more likely to be colder than average.

Snowfall : Near Average or Slightly Above Average (100% – 125% of Normal) 45″ to 55″

Snowfall for the coming season appears likely to be near average, to slightly above average.  The average snowfall in Poughkeepsie for the entire winter season is 43.7 inches.  We anticipate roughly 100% to 125% of normal snowfall totals in the Hudson Valley… that would translate into roughly 45″ to 55″ of snow in Poughkeepsie.  Seasonal snowfall is notoriously difficult to project, because along the east coast, nor’easters are wildcards that can drop 12″ or more in one shot.  The pattern that we expect to set up this winter should give us a few shots at nor’easter development.  If this season reaches its full potential, we wouldn’t be surprised to exceed the high end of our forecast range.  With that said, in general, we do believe that the storm tracks will be further east than last winter… leading to more snow events, and less wintry mix events than we saw last winter.  That should allow the seasonal snowfall totals to be higher than what we saw last winter, when Poughkeepsie saw 31.5″.


(Disclaimer: This section may not be for everyone, it’s very heavy on the science behind the projection above.)
For anyone who may be new to HVW, we produce the Winter Outlook each year at this time.  Our goal is to provide a science based, long range projection of the coming winter season.  We combine our forecasting experience with computer data and historical trends, to produce the winter outlook each year.  Because there is computer data involved in creation of the outlook, it’s basically a ‘forecast based on a forecast’.  So if some of the assumptions we make to create the outlook turn out to be wrong… the winter outlook will be affected.  So lets take a look at how we arrived at the Winter Outlook.

Oceans absorb and store a tremendous amount of the earth’s heat, and that heat is transferred into the atmosphere.  Whether sea surface temperatures are influencing tropical storm development, helping to influence areas of high and low pressure, or whether an el nino or la nina are in place… oceans are one of the most (if not THE most) influential drivers of the weather pattern.  As such, how the ocean temperatures compare to average, are a fundamental key to deciphering what the coming winter may hold.  So, let’s see what our current SST (sea surface temperatures) look like…

The United States is in the upper middle of the global SST map.  The first thing that will jump out at you, is the bright red coloring in the Pacific Ocean.  That is indicative of well above average sea surface temperatures (SSTs).  We have highlighted 2 specific areas to focus on; (A) the Tropical Pacific, and (B) The Northeastern Pacific Ocean.

So now that we know the current conditions, let’s look at the projected conditions for the coming winter.  Below are the CFSv2 model, and the JAMSTEC model projections for Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) from December through February…

Now, comes the hard part.  We closely review the current conditions and the computer model projections for the winter.  Then we analyze ALL of the winters from 1950 to 2019.  Of those 70 winters, we identify those where conditions most closely resembled our current and projected conditions.  We combine them to create our “analog” winter… or the combination of years that most closely resemble the projected conditions for the coming winter.  Here is our analog for this winter…


When you compare our analog to the CFSv2 and JAMSTEC model projections, you’ll notice all 3 are very similar, with a few minor differences.

Area A, the Tropical Pacific is slightly different between the two computer models.  The JAMSTEC is slightly warmer than the CFSv2, but both are rather neutral in temperatures (near average).  So we don’t expect an el nino or la nina.  If the JAMSTEC is right, we could see a very weak el nino known as a “modoki el nino”.
Area B, the Northeast Pacific Ocean is very warm in both computer model projections, as well as our analog.  If you look at the Pacific Ocean as a whole (A & B together), all 3 maps display a very similar pattern of warmth, as well as the cooler than average water north of Hawaii.
While not labeled, if you look at the Atlantic Ocean (east of USA) you’ll notice our analog has warmer than average water off the east coast of the US, just like the models, and the cooler than average water south of Greenland on our analog, also consistent with the model projection.
We’ve combined multiple different winters, and weighted some more heavily than others, depending on how closely the conditions resemble what we anticipate this winter.

Additional Thoughts: Uncertainties & Wildcards

It’s probably the perfect time to do this section.  We just completed our recap of last winter and the comparison to the winter outlook.  So we’ve just analyzed last winter, and looked for weaknesses and errors in our methodology.  There are 2 factors we want to discuss, and the possible ramifications on the winter outlook.

First, there is the “cool” patch of water projected by the CFSv2 model off the western US coast…

We circled the area just to the east of the “B” on the map.  A small area of near normal temperatures… in a sea of well above average water.  It doesn’t look like much, but something similar to this was a major factor in the busting of last winter’s outlook.  You can read about all the details here: Winter Recap : 2018-2019 Winter Outlook Review.
Could it happen again? … Not likely.  The reasons are two fold.  First, this model is not supported by the JAMSTEC model, which has a solid band of warmth in the area in question.  Secondly, the area NW of Hawaii is cooler than average water, something last year did not have.  So we think this is not a big issue for uncertainty.  However, we still want to keep a close eye on this area as we move into the winter.  If this area is cooler than average… it could have major implications for the weather patterns that set up.

The 2nd “Wild Card” is much more interesting… let’s call it the “safety off” scenario.  When we began working on the Winter Outlook, and compiling all the winters that most closely represented this year, one winter stood out above all others.  The 2014-2015 winter.


On the left is the 14-15 winter… and on the right is this year’s JAMSTEC model for the winter.  The patterns are eerily similar.  For anyone who may not remember, December was very warm, and January was cooler… and then February was record breaking cold!  So we factored in the 2014 – 2015 heavily when creating this winter outlook.
So what’s the big deal?  … well, 2014 – 2015 was such a severe winter, to create our temperature projections for the winter, we had to tweak our settings.  The 2014-2015 winter was making our winter outlook too cold, and we needed to moderate the temperature outlook.  So we minimized the weight we gave to the 14-15 winter just a bit.

So when we discuss our concerns for a wildcard… the possibility that this winter is colder than what we are projecting, is on the table.  If we take the “safety off” and apply the proper weight to the 14-15 winter based on the similarities, this is what the winter temperatures look like…

This would be a much colder winter than what our actual outlook is suggesting.  You may ask, why don’t we use this as our outlook temperature projection?  The truth is, that was a record breaking winter.  And similarities aside, it’s not wise to use such an anomalous event as the basis for your winter outlook, or any forecast.  Many factors created the record cold February 2015, and to believe that will happen again, is irresponsible.  We only mention it here in this section, because we want to highlight that the temperature profile of the Pacific Ocean is very similar, and conductive to a potentially very cold winter.  We’ll have to see if the factors come together to give us the colder solution… but odds are much better that we’ll experience a more temperate winter.  That’s not to say it can’t be very cold at times, but lets wait and see.

So there you have it… the 2019-2020 Winter Outlook.  We hope you’ve enjoyed what we swore would not be as all encompassing as previous outlooks, but somehow became very, very thorough.  We greatly appreciate all your support, and can’t wait to help guide you through another winter in the Hudson Valley.  Keep Calm… and Weather On.  Thanks for reading.

2018-2019 HVW Winter Outlook

The days are getting colder, and the nights are featuring frost.  We have even just had our first snowstorm of the early season.  So with the 2018-2019 winter getting closer each day, the thought “what is this winter going to be like?” is growing more and more common across the region.  So that means it must be time for the HVW Winter Outlook.  This has become an annual event, where we combine science with speculation, and try to project the general weather patterns for the coming several months.  We focus on the temperatures and potential snowfall, based on what occurred when conditions were similar in the past.  Hopefully, you’re familiar with our method, but if you’re not… don’t worry, we’ll explain as we go.  So without further delay, lets get into the 2018-2019 HVW Winter Outlook:

Winter Temperatures : Below Average (-0.5° to -2.5° compared to Average)

Temperatures this winter are expected to be below average across the Hudson Valley.  We expect a persistent ridge of high pressure has set up across the western US, causing above average temperatures.  The offset to that, has been a persistent dip in the jet stream across the eastern US is likely… which leads to below average temperatures.  Our research suggests the winter could get off to a similar start to recent years, with a near normal December.  However our latest guidance is suggesting December could be colder than average and active.  Then, January is likely to be slightly colder than average, featuring some cold snaps, followed by a thaw or two.  February appears likely to be the coldest month of the winter, with the best chances for snow and sustained cold.  When all is said and done, temperatures are likely to be 0.5 to 2.5 degrees below average.

Winter Snowfall : Above Average (120% to 150% of average)

Snowfall this winter appears likely to be above average.  The 26 year average for snowfall in Poughkeepsie is 44.2″.  From first flake to last flake this winter, we expect to see snowfall totals roughly between 50″ and 65″.  The wide range in the forecast is a product of uncertain nor’easter storm tracks.  The reality of snowfall totals, is that luck is certainly a factor.  Patterns can be cold enough to support snow, but then the coastal storm hugs the coast a bit closer than anticipated.  The result can be a forecast of 6 to 12 inches of snow, becoming only 5 inches before mixing with rain.  Even with the variability of storm tracks, on average, we believe snowfall for the season will be above average.  The snowiest month is likely to be February, while December could get of to a slow start in terms of snowfall amounts.

Winter Outlook Methodology

This section may not be for everyone, as we tend to get a bit heavy on the science and details.  Many people just want the basic winter outlook, which is what you’ll find above.  However, if you’re looking for insight into how we arrive at our conclusion, you may find some interesting data below.  Each year, we use roughly the same technique in generating our winter outlook.  We focus on oceanic patters across the globe, with extra emphasis on the tropical Pacific Ocean.  Whether we are in an El Nino or La Nina has significant impact on the outlook.  We also use other data points and techniques… such as: early season Siberian snow cover; Atlantic Ocean tropical storm activity; solar cycles; volcanic activity; etc.

So lets begin with our current sea surface temperature pattern across the globe:

These are the global ocean temperatures compared to average, as of the end of October.  You’ll find the United States in the middle of the top right quadrant (to the right of the letter B).  So we’ve highlighted a couple areas which we will use for the rest of this section:

  • “A” indicates the Tropical Pacific Ocean, suggesting a weak el nino may be trying to set up… with warmer than average ocean temperatures.
  • “B” indicates the Northern Pacific Ocean, where waters are much warmer than average.

We have highlighted these areas, because the ocean also has influence over favoring higher or lower than normal pressures, depending on where the waters are warmer or colder.  Now lets look at the projected sea surface temperatures (SSTs) from the European and American (CFSv2) models for this winter (December, January, February):

You’ll notice that both computer model projections yield similar results.  If you look at location “A”, both models are projecting a weak el nino, with quite warm waters in the Tropical Pacific Ocean.  Location “B” suggests very warm waters close to Alaska and Canada, with cooler waters slightly further SW toward Hawaii.

So next, we went through the databases, and looked at every winter since 1950.  We isolated the winters that were most in line with the projected sea surface trends for the coming winter.  When we combined them together, we get this projected SST map:

If you compare our analog map of similar winters, you can’t help but notice the similarities to the computer model projections.  The Tropical Pacific Ocean “A”, displays a weak el nino, with wide sweeping warmer than average waters… all the way from the date line (180°W) to the South American coast.  In addition, the Northern Pacific Ocean “B”, is also very similar.  The waters off the coast of North America are quite warm, with slightly cooler waters expected pushing back toward Hawaii.  Here is the generalized 500mb jet stream pattern that unfolds when the oceanic pattern sets up as projected…

In similar years, a persistent upper level low pressure sets up north of Hawaii, which is reflexive of the cooler water temps in that region.  There is a responsive ridge of high pressure that develops over the NW US and Canada.  That ridge is responsible for above average temperatures consistent in winters like the one we are projecting.  Then downstream, over the eastern US, a persistent trough is likely.  That should translate into colder than normal temperatures, as well as a more active storm pattern than normal.  And Lastly, a strong area of high pressure develops over Greenland, thanks to a very strong negative North Atlantic Oscillation (-NAO).  This is a key feature with regard to the development, and track of nor’easters.  This pattern would be very favorable for an above average snow season.

Testing the Theory

Utilizing the ENSO and the Sea-Surface Temperature patterns that are in place, we develop the base forecast discussed above for the winter.   We have tested this methodology in previous winters, and it does give us a good starting point for analyzing the winter.  The projected winter pattern is quite similar to the current actual SST pattern… so then, let us test the method by looking at October, and see how the SST forecast analog for October compares to the actual October temperatures…

While it is not exact (these type of long range projections rarely are), the analog and the actual are quite similar.  When comparing the actual to the analog… the actual temperatures along the eastern US are generally warmer.  But it’s not the precision details we utilize when comparing legitimacy of the forecast method.  Keep in mind, we are using a generalized pattern over multiple months, to project patterns for the upcoming winter.  So rather than notice that the SE is warmer than modeled… lets focus on the general patterns in the analog and the actual.

  1. Both the analog and the actual are mild right along the west coast
  2. Both scenarios are below average in the center of the country, with the core cold in the upper mid-west
  3. Both scenarios are near to above average the further you go in the SE

Both the forecast October and the actual October were near or below average for most of the country.  The only warmth is found in the southeast, with the actual warmer in the SE than the forecast.  In addition, the warmth extends over a bit further NW, covering more area in the actual result.  A few of the details are different… but the overriding pattern is similar.   So it’s not a stretch to believe that the methodology used for the winter outlook holds merit.  However, should these factors change… and the pattern not unfold as expected… it would have major ramifications for the accuracy of the outlook.  Something to keep in mind, when taking the outlook into account.

In Conclusion…

We’ve already had our first snow of the season, quite a powerful punch for most of the region.  So the 18-19 Winter season isn’t looking so far away any longer.  The question is, what happens from here.  Does the winter moderate a bit, and give us a near normal… or even above average temperatures this winter?  Or does the winter play out like we expect… which means that our mid-November nor’easter was only a taste of what’s to come.  We’ll soon find out soon enough.  No matter what happens, we’ll be here with you the entire way.  We’ll forecast the coming winter, and focus on each and every storm… to give you the best information possible.  So you can make informed decisions, and stay one step ahead of the weather.  Thank you for reading our 18-19 HVW Winter Outlook… and thank you for supporting Hudson Valley Weather.